Hong Kong’s Economy at Risk from Extradition Bill | Hong Kong Protest News | China Uncensored

He was harassed by Hong Kong police, and sent “yakuza flowers” as a warning because of his activism. Now this hedge fund managers says the extradition bill puts Hong Kong’s economy
at risk. Welcome to China Uncensored, I’m Chris Chappell. Today I’m here with Ed Chin, a Hong Kong activist, hedge fund manager, and founder of 2047 Hong Kong Monitor. Thanks for joining me today, Ed. It’s good to see you again Chris. So tell me a bit about 2047 Hong Kong Monitor. Sure, after the Umbrella Movement, which ended
in December 2014 because there’s no more occupation, there’s no more Umbrella Movement, the name is changed to 2047 Hong Kong Monitor. It used to be called the Finance and Banking
Group That Supports Occupy Central. So we wanted to fight for Hong Kong’s democracy until the 50-year nonintervention policy comes
to an end, hopefully. Which is in 2047. So you’ve been fairly outspoken. Have you faced any backlash? Yeah, especially in the last six months or
so in the so-called US-China trade war. In the very beginning, our core values mean
freedom of speech, freedom of press and also the judiciary. It’s under challenge almost any time. Well pro-democracy legislators have been kicked
out of office. But you said you faced backlash for this? Because they visited my office, where we are
filming now, inside my boardroom… You say “they” visited you, what do you
mean? This is someone… Usually when you see a police visit your office, they have to have a warrant of sorts, right? And they could make up an excuse saying, This is interesting, January 1st, it’s a public
holiday, statutory holiday. The police claimed that someone received a
phonecall saying someone comes into my office January
1st for an interview, a job interview. And after two hours, then come out. So that makes me kind of suspicious. Who would make such a claim and then they
just come in with an excuse. Just to intimidate you for no reason. I never mentioned that publicly, so this is
the first time. And it’s not just one time. It’s many times within a month. How many times? Usually eight times. So Hong Kong police visited you eight times? Not just here, but also residential. That means sending an ambulance, sending a
fire truck. So that makes me wonder, am I very popular? No. But I wonder does it have anything to do with
the sings that we raise up so we did raise the concern to the right party,
so to speak. I don’t want to be too vivid about who we
visited. But after about five to six minutes of investigation, the police came back with a letter saying
nothing could be found. That’s on record. Nothing that could be found at your place
when they came to visit? They cannot find the person who made these
prank calls. But this is something that makes your neighbors and even people around you think, hey, what’s going on, right? Yeah, if ambulances and firetrucks are showing
up outside, what was it, your place of residence? Yeah, that, too. And residence, and I’m not trying to have a barbecue inside
a condominium, like a huge one. But at 3:30am when you see this different
things… It was the middle of the night! The middle of the night. Wow. And I understand you got a nice bouquet of
flowers one time? Yeah, that’s the one time it made me really
get concerned because you think about the nerve gas, or
as they call it, nerve agent that I think, two years ago, there was a father
and a daughter who were Russian spies who lived in the UK. They sniff into that and it cause permanent
brain damage. So of course when I receive roses, you know, it is like the Yakuza, you know
from Japan, that’s like a death ultimatum. Kind of telling you not to say things they
don’t like. Anyways, I think to say this publicly, I’m
just saying that I want to defend Hong Kong’s values. That’s why I say this: Hong Kong shouldn’t be like any other place
that is inside China. Hong Kong is still Hong Kong, right? So I want to say that I want to protect the
core values. That’s why I’m outspoken today. Well that seems perfectly reasonable. Whoever sent you the bouquet of roses, maybe they were just trying to thank you. Oh, thank you for being outspoken. I hope so! It’s better than some Yakuza sending you nerve
gas-tainted flowers. But that was in January and now we’re sitting in very uncertain times
in Hong Kong now because of this extradition treaty. A lot of people went to the street just a
few days ago. Nd it turned into a bugger thing we haven’t seen five years after the Umbrella
Movement. Speaking of the extradition bill, you’ve been
very outspoken about it. And this bill would allow the Hong Kong government
to send people in Hong Kong to mainland China for trial. How would the extradition bill affect the
economy of Hong Kong? It is showing a lot of side effects now, and
actually, Last few months, since April, things got escalated
after many, two or three rallies now. The first rally I think was in March. We only got 13,000 people to show up. At the end of April, April 28th, we got 130,000. And the last one that we had, just less than
ten days ago, we had over 1.03 million. Over one million people came out. That’s unprecedented. In a city that has 7 million people. Yes, 1/7 of the population came out just to say no to legalized kidnapping of
Hong Kongers and foreigners who live in Hong Kong, anyone passing by, to China. So as a hedge fund manager, what do you think this is going to do for
the economy of Hong Kong? Now because after the 1.03 million rally, three days afterward there was also police
brutality near the central, near the LegCo building. And the police also, these are like riot police. They beat up everyone and fire more than 150
tear gas canisters with rubber bullets and also bean bag bullets, and using batons to bash everyone. And then facing the head, not the limbs, the
head. So some law-only managers were saying if things
get worse, they will pull out. And then one hedge-fund manager told me he would dump all Hong Kong stocks if one
person dies from this event. So the wealthy are looking to move their money
outside of Hong Kong. That, too. That’s related to offshore banking. There’s a lot of inquiry, that if you check the offshore banking units, more than 30% new inquiries. So every hour, the offshore banking unit of
any global bank would have a lot of businesses. Which means they do not trust the Hong Kong
jurisdiction. If things get worse, if they park their money
overseas, let’s say in an overseas offshore jurisdiction, all they have to do is wire the money to the
offshore banking site, that bank. So I was telling people that in the worst
case scenario, you should have at least 60% of your liquid
cash in the offshore banking site of that bank that you use. So you’ve seen, as sort of the rule of law
has been changing, as the rule of law has been eroding in Hong
Kong, wealthy people can’t trust that their fortunes
inside of Hong Kong are safe. Just two hours ago I was reading the Apple
Daily, which is the highest circulation paper in
Hong Kong and also pro-democracy newspaper that’s under
attack. They had a feature saying one wealthy person, this is not like your affluent. So it’s like a tycoon in Hong Kong. Move 100 million U.S., a lot of money, to
Singapore. So it’s like a global bank. US-based global bank with Singapore as a regional
headquarters. So it’s like transferring money from Hong
Kong jurisdiction to Singapore. That means something. So the reaction from the wealthy, is this different than in 2014 with the Umbrella
Movement? 2014, it was fighting for one person one vote
without pre-screening. With this one you see even the pro-Beijing
business people come out because they are also afraid that they don’t
know whether they would… When they do travel, they don’t know whether
they’d pay a certain bribe, let’s say to open a factory. There’s many different levels of government. You have to use not just guanxi, but also
use money to get certain licenses, to get electricity, hydro, whatever, right? So they were afraid that by doing these, they would fall into the trap of reaching
this proposed extradition treaty or bill. That they would fall into this landmine themselves. So they were not too happy about it. These are the normal pro-Beijing guys. So universal suffrage, that doesn’t matter to a lot of these people. But when it starts to threaten their fortunes, that’s what got people out onto the streets. Yes because China could say you break certain
rules and then ask the Hong Kong court and then ask the commercial crime unit of
the Hong Kong police to freeze your Hong Kong bank account. Make it under investigation for a period of
time. Then you can’t do anything. Then you are stuck. Which is why you want to get your money out
of Hong Kong. Yes, and also you could be tried inside China
court, and be like another Causeway Bay bookseller,
who go missing. So people are concerned. So it’s not just the normal activist in Hong
Kong. Which our activists like Joshua Wong, and also professor Benny Tai is serving jail
time right now in Hong Kong as we are filming this. Carrie Lam just announced that she’s going
to postpone the extradition bill. Do you think that’s going to take away people’s
fears? I think yes, to a certain extent, but also
no because this means putting it to a pause. What does a pause mean? If you play your computer, pause, you can play this evil thing again. So I think a lot of Hong Kongers, after this
extradition proposal was put forward from a few months ago, we lost trust in the government. A lot of people, they might think that after
the Umbrella Movement, people don’t care anymore because no matter
what you do, they will still find a chief executive that
Beijing likes, and then that’s it, right? Nothing you can do much about. But this is about their lives, their well-being, their security, both financial and also personal. So everyone is fighting very hard about it. But I think a lot of people, after the so-called
“horror movie,” the horror show, a lot of people have decided to leave Hong
Kong this summer. If they have kids, why not go back to places they immigrated
from before? A lot of people relocated after 1997, too,
to be honest. Over 300,000 Canadians come back, and they see things are okay. Things were okay for the first ten years,
I would say. But things are not okay now. When you have a president with an unlimited
term, that concerns people, too. And Carrie Lam being looked at as a puppet, but she has been quite ruthless in the way
she handles Hong Kong people. Not just the kids, but across all segments
of the society. We have been very discontent about what she
did. Yes I’ve been hearing in Hong Kong people,
in Cantonese, calling the extradition bill an evil law. Yes, yes, it is evil because it is a horror
show, put it this way. People can’t sleep in. And there’s also, put it in finance terms, we call it an option the Hong Kong government
put out. It’s a “put” option, as in putting you
down with a short-term expiry date. Time value is depleting very fast. We thought it would be end of June before Donald Trump and president Xi meet for the G20. So they’re setting up a very evil platform
to scare everyone including Americans like yourself. It’s good that we do this in Hong Kong, but
next time, who knows, right? Yeah, I’m happy I got in. Yeah, if the extradition bill is passed, then a lot of people might not want to come. So I understand that, in response to the extradition
bill, the U.S. Has considered changing some of its
policies toward Hong Kong. How do you think that would affect the economy
of Hong Kong? If the so-called Hong Kong Policy Act, if the U.S. kills it, I still think it’s not likely yet unless the Hong Kong government does something
very stupid, which is close to the edge of doing something
stupid. Because an exco member, meaning the executive
board so-to-speak of Hong Kong, one guy’s name is Bernard Chen. He was hinting that he did not want to see
people to use, well, he didn’t use the word “military action.” But enforcement, he didn’t want to see any
enforcement people other than the Hong Kong police to clean up the mess, so to speak. Sort of implying China’s People’s Liberation
Army. Which is just a one-minute walk away from
Carrie Lam’s office. That’s true, the garrison is very close to
the chief executive’s office. Her office is just next to LegCo. You cross the street and it’s the PLA barrack. That was some very interesting city planning. Yes, it’s very interesting. So it’s scaring quite a few people. Do you think the extradition bill is the end
of Hong Kong’s autonomy? If the extradition bill is passed, and I mentioned
it quite publicly, too, that means putting the One Country Two Systems
experiment, not to a halt, but it’s finished. It’s finished. But think about it: It was Deng Xiaoping, the former former paramount leader after Tiananmen. That was a big mistake. And then because of this, you think about
this very good idea, using economic reform to make people take
a second look at China. And now of course Hong Kong people do benefit from the so-called economic miracle that we benefit in the last 30 or so years. Like even before 1997. The joint declaration was signed in 1984. And of course, afterwards, there was Tiananmen. And Deng Xiaoping gave us reassurance that
things would be okay. Some people took a leap of faith and came
back to Hong Kong, I being one. I came back in the year 2000. This is almost 20 years for myself being in
Asia and also Hong Kong. So if somebody watching wanted to learn more
about you or some of the causes you’re standing up for, where should they go? What should they do? I know you are also a book writer. Occasionally I write one book every year. Usually the first three chapters on finance. The next two chapters is more on activism
and democracy stuff. And then I’ll put your picture in the book,
too. That’d be great! Yeah, yeah. Usually we have the Hong Kong book fair in
the mid of July. So if the evil bill is not passed, definitely
to book can be printed, and they can see the new book – the trilogy. This will be part three of this. How to edge your risks in uncertain times:
part three. Be careful, you’re becoming a Hong Kong bookseller. Yeah, wow, thanks for reminding me. But for people watching, is there a website or a Twitter handle? Where can they learn more about you? They can look into my personal public Facebook
page, Edward Ching, it’s very easy to find. Our activist group is 2047 HK Monitor. You’ll see a lot of things in English and also traditional Chinese. Great. Well thank you for joining me today, Ed. It’s been a pleasure. Thank you Chris, and I will see you in Hong
Kong soon, I hope. I hope I’ll be in Hong Kong soon, yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

100 thoughts on “Hong Kong’s Economy at Risk from Extradition Bill | Hong Kong Protest News | China Uncensored

  1. Ed Chin, i suggest you go after Carrie Lams allies in the LegCo, publicize their names and ensure they don't get voted in the upcoming local district elections in HK.

  2. The Miao and other "minorities" from the south-west, Inner Mongolia, Tibet, Turkestan, Hong Kong… All that China does is destroying. The people, cultures, civilizations, languages, identities, histories and architectures/litteratures, plus the environment and endangered species.
    The world, not only western, should never haver let China absorb that much territories to begin with. Soviet Union let them have Xinjiang then immediately regeretted it (nuclear testings…)
    India's Jawaharlal Nehru thought India+China would be best friend and together would stand against the West to build a great Asia, then China took for itself only all the Hymalayas (Tibet), controlling the water source of a big part of south and southeast Asia and pointing missiles after missiles to the south from the strategic plateau.
    And then Hong Kong, Macau were ceded like objects, without the people having a say.
    Will the world sit and watch when they destroy the spirit of Hong Kong? Then Taiwan?

  3. Never trust or believe anything China government said or promised ,all lie and dictate ,same like American Lefties Democrats . thanks for sharing.

  4. I really hope the people of Hong Kong can take control of their government again one day. Its quite sad to me that we(Humans)are looking to start going to Mars yet we can not even live in harmony here. So many lessons can be learned from history but we just keep repeating the same mistakes made in the past. The one tool we do have now is social media platforms which by themselves should just be platforms. The issue seems to be now censorship vs free speech but also misinformation which we already had before but much more limited amounts of info and where it came from. the one fact that still remains that a thinking mind can sort through the info and call out the bs. With that said I want to thank you and your team for making a great channel that is a great example of what journalism is. JFK was talking about the ones like you not cnn fox and so on lol.

  5. I know the British agreed to the 50 year agreement…my question is…
    Did Hong Kong agree with it as well or was it just the British?
    If it was just the British, then there's a loophole to your advantage. If Hong Kong agreed….sorry.

  6. this channel can only use China at their expense for its survivability. Such shameless channel and this guy he looks like a prick, an annoying one.

  7. The CCP doesnt seem to understand that much of the world regards Hong Kong as an international gem. It's a lovely place with lovely people and nobody wants it to change.

  8. Is it possible that there some really smart people or groups that can break down the firewall so that the mainland citizens can see the protests and decide for themselves?

  9. Is there a way I can give you money where:
    1. CCP doesn't know I did it.
    2. No money goes to 3rd parties like Patreon.

  10. And in an oddly and demonstrably tangentially supportive ( from a free market and free society perspective) event elsewhere: 1-2 million turn out in support of the basketball industry-.

  11. What's the quote? Socialism and Big Government work great until they run out of other people's money? China be commin for Hong Kong's money, yo!

  12. Yes, MONEY is why God put us here.The more MONEY you have the closer to God you are.
    Go with GOD he needs your money.

  13. On the one hand, I do think Hong Kong should maintain an autonomous leadership, but on the other, I do think this does encourage white collar criminals to flee to Hong Kong without fear of extradition.

  14. Gotta love how democracy has a tinge of rich people affraid to lose their massive fortunes. Illbegotten i suppose in this context. The umbrella here might be rich people hiding under the premise of poor people being persecuted. Not the law being mainly for keeping the ultra rich from going back into uncle Xi's pockets. Altho i suppose the line is fine.

  15. Both men conversed very intelligently. You hardly see that in interviews these days. I say this is good journalism! 🙂

  16. When I was a kid in the 80's the cold war was going strong and an old man told me that all hell was going to break loose in 97 when Hong Kong went back to China. When it didn't happen I thought he was full of crap. Now I see that it is just happening in slow motion.

  17. This will spread right through china it's time china stepped out of medieval law and take a long hard look at there legal system

  18. Hong Kong people have proven time and time again that they have the steel and guts to do what Singaporean people could never ever do. Mad respect.

  19. Good reporting guys, but Chris, do you explain to people that you are a comedian and will phrase your questions so that they sound – um – odd? They seem to be totally unphased and give really great answers anyway! Anyway, you are adding to your credibility by these interviews!

  20. Yea i think the bill need to be stopped the people wont work and it is damaging the economy they already got cluttered streets but with 2 million and it is really disruptive

  21. Hey Chris! I think this channel is doing an effort to help too. Check it out! https://www.youtube.com/user/serpentza

  22. FREEEEEEEEDOM🇺🇸🇹🇼🇺🇸🇹🇼🇺🇸🇹🇼🇺🇸🇹🇼🇺🇸🇹🇼🇺🇸🇹🇼

  23. By Jay Tharappel – Western propaganda comes in two types, 1) we attack them for our benefit (realism), and 2) we save them for their benefit (liberalism), and when it comes to Hong Kong, both the Left and Right of the Anglo world tend towards the latter, actually thinking the political unrest is vaguely because China wants to impose laws on Hong Kong to extradite “human rights” and “democracy” campaigners.

    The Greens have said they are “deeply concerned” because the “new extradition agreement…will expose people to China’s unjust system” where “fair trial is chronically denied”. The only reason many think this is about “activists” is because of two people, “Ray Wong, 25, and Alan Li, 27”, who are currently living in asylum in Germany, of whom, “Wong said he feared it could be used to suppress the pro-democracy movement”, however it’s never explained on what grounds they could be extradited to the mainland if they’re committing crimes in Hong Kong, given the “two … activists [are] facing rioting charges at home”, meaning the extradition bill isn’t even needed to prosecute them.

    The Hong Kong parliament wants to introduce the Fugitives Offenders Ordinance amendment bill which would “allow case-by-case transfers of people to countries without extradition treaties, including China” but also to “Taiwan and Macau”. This is to fix “a “loophole” that they claim has allowed the city to become a haven for criminals from the mainland” and that’s because “there is no formal mechanism for the surrender of fugitives to mainland China”. This is why in early 2018 a Hong Kong resident Chan Tong-kai got away with killing his wife Poon Hiu-wing in Taiwan (not the mainland, but same problem) and stealing her money, because “the police were unable to charge him for murder or extradite him to Taiwan because no agreement is in place.”

    The real background to this story, the economic elephant in the room, is that from 1980 to 2016, the third-world lost nearly $16.3 trillion USD in capital flight, of which the Chinese share represents around 28%, much of it exiting via Hong Kong. By 2016 it had been reported that the Chinese central bank had “burned through $800bn of foreign reserves since mid-2014, when they peaked at $4 trillion” because of capital flight. However, “if the bill becomes law, it will be possible for mainland Chinese courts to request Hong Kong courts to freeze and confiscate assets related to crimes committed on the mainland, beyond an existing provision covering the proceeds of drug offences”.

    This is now why “Hong Kong’s business community has expressed concern over the inclusion of economic and financial crimes in the bill”, and why “some Hong Kong tycoons have started moving personal wealth offshore”, that is, they are fleeing with their money to the safe havens of the Anglo financial empire, to fuel debt, consumption and asset bubbles. Ever since the Opium wars in the 19th century, when Qing dynasty China was forced to cede control of Hong Kong to the British empire, it has been a conduit for draining China of capital (then silver) in exchange for opium. Given that HSBC which was founded by the British in Hong Kong is still helping Mexican drug cartels launder money, it seems much hasn’t changed

  24. Winnie the Pooh and his town along with g oo ge has deleted all negative history from the net, even genocide

  25. I used to chill at the top of the PLA barracks when I was young. The view is unbeatable. It used to be called 'Tamar Building' or something XD

  26. Taiwan is already a separate & sovereign nation (fuck the corrupt, grasping, ccp). make Hong Kong into its own separate & sovereign nation, too.
    unfortunately, with the control freak, winnie the poo, as chinas latest emperor, that's not likely to occur for HK. HK citizens, you have support from most freedom loving humans around the globe – never surrender! 🖖👌💪

  27. Chris, Shelly, et al. Are you going to be in Hong Kong for the commemoration of independence from UK on July 1? Somehow, I think this celebration will be a bit different from the ones in the past. Also, you were talking to a hedge fund manager, does he know of funds that work in investment with more … responsible Chinese companies?

  28. Hong Kong have another battle coming up. China will force Hong Kong to drop the Hong Kong Dollar and use the Chinese Yuan. Its an attempt to keep the Yuan from falling. China will start to sell the Yuan denominator next week in Hong Kong. Watch out because its not over yet.

  29. Yup I had already taken mainland China from my travel list, and sadly I will remove Hong Kong too if this bill is passed.
    Imagine if the Chinese government needs something from my country or just needs to blame some random foreigners, I don't wanna die 😭.

  30. Well theres tons of black money, high risk wealth management, weapons deals, and even more tons of drugs and medicines trafficked through the orient's most treasured port..After all, the Opium Bank was between Shanghai and Honk Kong. Besides the loop of propaganda and counter propaganda, which we seen this many many times before, Honk Kong should remain autonomous as various small regions of the world.

  31. What? Benefit from china`s economy? For the last 20 years, only those people who deal with china under the table get the benefit, not the ordinary people! We swallowed the cost! Company merge and takeover, Job lost and inflation!

    Ever heard of a phrase 鬼拍後尾枕? 錢志健 probably telling the truth, yea, he was benefit form that, but it is our sons and daughters who get beat up till 6/12! A self claim 2014 佔中十死士喎? Did he get any charge from the government in the following years? Not that i know of.

    HE SMELL FISHY! 人血饅頭好味嘛?

  32. What's the point of fighting until 2050? Is HK just going to give up after 2050?

    HK people need to keep breeding and keep speaking Cantonese! Your invaders can't understand Cantonese.

  33. Sure enough no rich one in the right mind wants to keep his money in the place where Jurisdiction is untrustworthy!

  34. Sorry they demonitized yet another video. Hopefully this doesn't bleed over into your non Hong Kong content.

  35. If I facepalmed any harder about the Hong Kong government CCP stooges, it would pose a danger to towns along coasts and tektonic fault lines…

  36. Hong Kong is The Goose That Lays Golden Eggs. Is it not very foolish to eat the Goose? Better to let it continue to lay Golden Eggs, is it not? Hopefully Xi will come to realize this, not only for the benefit of Hong Kong, but also for the extended benefit of China!

  37. Hong Kong wants general election, one person one vote, for generation of the Chief Executive. It is in Basic Law.

  38. Xi Jin Ping is a throw back to the Manchu Dynasty. The people of Hong Kong represent the future of China and will eventually displace the current dynasty in Beijing just like Sun Yat Sen, who was also from the Canton delta, did about a hundred years ago.

  39. How is dumping the stocks beneficial to the Hong Kong protest. isnt it doing the situation more harm then a clear statement? Is this really really though out carefully?

  40. Carrie Lam the Extradition Bill was all HER idea. Well, THAT really makes you feel comfortable, doesn't it? People MUST be free. All DICTATORSHIPS MUST fall.

  41. When you receive "Yakuza Flowers" what you first must do is demand the delivery driver to sniff it and chew on the petals. This way if a fatality occured, the shipping company will have to go after the sender and replace their dead delivery driver.

  42. British public boycott all Chinese goods services, support the poor Chinese help Hong Kong. Ring down the Communist run government, elites who are making a joke of human rights! Selling Body parts of political prisoners, police using weapons that are against international law and human rights!! Hong Kong resisting whisked away by extradition to the Peking thugs who will jail them and sell body parts. No difference between them and the Nazis?!!

  43. Only 28 more years, China will take over Hong Kong completely. That’s a scary thought. I guess people either adapt to China communist or rise up and fight for freedom. Can Hong Kong be its own country? It’s too small to fight with giant China. I think it needs help from the US. I think rich Hong Kong people have money can flee Hong Kong. But the poor Hong Kong is on another level. They would be stuck in Hong Kong with communist China.

  44. the US need to find a way to grab more ally in asia, and isolate china (cuz the CCP has made the mistake to rely too much on exchanges, so, this weakness need to be exploited to force the CCP to stop their too agressive expensionism)

  45. Imagine how the name of HK will be changed to the mandarin 'Xianggang' in 2047, just like all the other Chinese cities (which have their own dialects and yet all city names are in mandarin). Ugh…. yuck!

  46. Didn't China say Hong Kong's law won't change for 50 years from 97? So why are they trying to make a law criminals will be extradited to the mainland!

  47. HK's economy is at risk due to endless protests you dumb idiot. HK people have had enough of these stupid protesters disrupting daily life in HK!!!! People couldn't get home or to their appointments because of the protesters. All you're doing on this crap channel is spreading false news about Hong Kong & its people.

  48. i thought the HK economy is failing from the protests? Do foreign investors even want to continue doing business in a unstable place like HK? Many of them are moving to singapore.Soon, medium to small business companies would feel it. so thats great news! support the protests! let it run for a year! Go damage more government buildings and burn chinese flags etc. Fight for your freeddddoomm. Then again be ready to eat the scraps from the table.You are doomed either way. From the british to the chinese, you are merely pawns.

  49. Wow Chris!
    Pretty tense times for Hong Kong's citizens, I served 3 yrs on the old iron curtain ,, very tense, but these folks have it worse. Everything they own is up for forfeiture..including their lives ..
    You guys have a great way of describing the situation..thanks.

  50. As a Chinese, Im enough for this protestor. "HKer" u better stay colony by UK, dont forget u got no human right and democracy in that period, thats only way calm u down. How sad for u. China set the unique system for u "one country, two system" which never seen in rest of world. U r be SPOIL so much. If u have independent in case, who will support u electricity, food, gas, etc… who will give u military protection? China gov didnt let u pay the taxes since 1997. Is that happen in any other individual city which didnt pay taxes to their countries? Gov let u manager by urself which improve the society and Econ. How dare R U?

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